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Old 11-15-2010, 12:05 AM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Default Best guns in class

In MW2 we had

AR: Tar-21 (or famas/m16 if you don't miss and don't lag etc.)
SMG: UMP or MP5k (situational)
Sniper: Barret .50 cal
LMG: Aug Hbar (or RPD if you want to wall spray lul)


Please correct me if I'm wrong up there, but I'm pretty sure I'm not. And by correct me if I'm wrong I don't mean with your personal bias or opinion, I mean with evidence like from denkirson's site.

So now onto black ops...

Black Ops | DenKirson on Xanga

scroll down onto that page, I can't link the image because it only links the weapons and none of their stats.

Now there isn't a ttk on this chart (time to kill) so I'm not really sure which weapons are the best in class? What do you guys think?
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Paraphrasing a post of chaRs:
Best weapons in class statistically speaking are:

Commando/AK (both have 2 hit headshots, the Commando being the better of the two while both the AUG and FAMAS have the highest DPS of ARs)
74u/MP5k (74u trumps it due to being grip viable but MP5 has slightly lower raise drop times)
Stoner63 (highest dps in game) (LMGs are viable now you can switch to pistol for movespeed)
L96 (all others are trash)
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Old 11-15-2010, 03:49 AM   #3 (permalink)
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74u also has faster reload, less recoil, and better irons imo (and 74u actually wins in drop time, tho w/ a pistol this generally doesnt matter)

in terms of aug/famas, aug has more balanced recoil

and finally in terms of commando/ak, though the commando is slightly better w/ .2-.45 (depending on your ability to reload cancel) faster reload and .1 raise time, the ak has better irons imo which may or may not be enough to make up for other inferiorities. (+ who knows about penetration)

edit: and pistols I would say either python (maybe akimboed, otherwise w/ speed reload) or suppressed cz75 depending on your needs.

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Wait, what? I thought DenKirson said that movement speed is determined by the weapon in your primary weapon slot?
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Wait, what? I thought DenKirson said that movement speed is determined by the weapon in your primary weapon slot?
It isn't in this game.

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In MW2 we had

AR: Tar-21 (or famas/m16 if you don't miss and don't lag etc.)
SMG: UMP or MP5k (situational)
Sniper: Barret .50 cal
LMG: Aug Hbar (or RPD if you want to wall spray lul)


Please correct me if I'm wrong up there, but I'm pretty sure I'm not. And by correct me if I'm wrong I don't mean with your personal bias or opinion, I mean with evidence like from denkirson's site.

So now onto black ops...

Black Ops | DenKirson on Xanga

scroll down onto that page, I can't link the image because it only links the weapons and none of their stats.

Now there isn't a ttk on this chart (time to kill) so I'm not really sure which weapons are the best in class? What do you guys think?
I first planned on doing a DPS(TTK) chart again, but like I said in my thread in the guide section, I simply posted the best guns/class because the stats are so homogenic it isn't worth it.
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Depending on the weapon you're carrying, your character will have his running speed changed.
Like Call of Duty 1 and 2, it is no longer based on your primary; what is in your hand determines your speed.
Meaning if you switch to a pistol, you will run faster than whatever assault rifle or LMG you've got.
I could swear this has been changed since last time I read it.
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^ Same, I could swear I read it as the speed of your character depends on the PRIMARY weapon.
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^ Same, I could swear I read it as the speed of your character depends on the PRIMARY weapon.
It was in previous games, it isn't in BO, note that the pistols have speed modifiers.
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cba to go back to denkirson. Speed modifiers are all 1, I would guess?
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cba to go back to denkirson. Speed modifiers are all 1, I would guess?
Yeah, pistols are 100% movement speed.
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Paraphrasing a post of chaRs:
Best weapons in class statistically speaking are:

Commando/AK (both have 2 hit headshots, the Commando being the better of the two while both the AUG and FAMAS have the highest DPS of ARs)
74u/MP5k (74u trumps it due to being grip viable but MP5 has slightly lower raise drop times)
Stoner63 (highest dps in game) (LMGs are viable now you can switch to pistol for movespeed)
L96 (all others are trash)
Wow You can switch to pistols for movement speed?! I always felt like I was moving fast but I never thought I actually way.. that's awesome.

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edit: On an off note, I did some "G11 variable scope sniping" today and to be honest it's probably the second best sniper in the game (or the best if you're the host). The G11 is also a viable AR in this game because it has almost no recoil and you can one burst fairly consistently with it. The commando is without a doubt my favorite weapon though.
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The Commando is the best, I agree. The extra ammo on the Galil is kinda nice though. I can't stand the AK-47, bad irons and visual recoil. As far as LMGs are concerned I like the M60. It reminds me of the RPD, my favorite LMG from MW2. It two shots at close range and has tons of ammo. The Stoner can really lay some pipe but its recoil can get a little out of hand because of its high rate of fire.
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It reminds me of the RPD, my favorite LMG from MW2.
woot yeah! That's why I was using it for a while, seemed just like a good ol RPD

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The Stoner can really lay some pipe but its recoil can get a little out of hand because of its high rate of fire.
True... ffffnow im gonna go back to the Galil... indecision QQ
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