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Old 02-16-2011, 04:11 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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A fetish is defined as a ''sexual attraction to objects, body parts or situations not conventionally viewed as being sexual in nature needed to satisfy.''

Fetishism ranges widely... paeodphilic thoughts, zoophilic thoughts, somnophilic thoughts, coprophilic thoughts.

Can we consider fetishes in a moral light? Which fetishes are acceptable? Which are not?

Why?
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Old 02-16-2011, 05:15 PM   #2 (permalink)
 
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Since they're personal, i dunno how you'd view them in a moral right. I mean many will think another's fetish is weird, since they're on the outside looking in, and of course paedophilia is always frowned upon by outsiders.
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paedophilia is always frowned upon by outsiders.
Meaning you're on the inside of that particular clique? Off to the appropriate thread with you my son.......

Fetishes are like phobias, they should be funny to everyone who doesn't share them. As with most things in life there's no need to get moral about it unless one's actions adversely affect anyone else.
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Old 02-17-2011, 01:48 PM   #4 (permalink)
 
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As with most things in life there's no need to get moral about it unless one's actions adversely affect anyone else.
Imo, this. Having a fetish towards something inanimate doesn't really concern or affect anyone else and the same goes for most other fetishes I imagine. As long as the two all the parties involved are consenting I don't see how you could have a problem with it, but people forcing themselves on children (who more than likely don't really understand what's going on or are two scared to say "no") or animals I do have a problem with; although it could be difficult to determine if an animal is providing consent in most cases so perhaps they should stick to larger animals (you're not going to hear of someone raping a fully alert adult lioness, more along the lines of "Man appears to have been partially de-clothed by lioness that mauled him to death").

PS. I know humans are technically animals.
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Meaning you're on the inside of that particular clique?.
duh
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^^^ learn to extrapolate.
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Imo, this. Having a fetish towards something inanimate doesn't really concern or affect anyone else and the same goes for most other fetishes I imagine. As long as the two all the parties involved are consenting I don't see how you could have a problem with it, but people forcing themselves on children (who more than likely don't really understand what's going on or are two scared to say "no") or animals I do have a problem with; although it could be difficult to determine if an animal is providing consent in most cases so perhaps they should stick to larger animals (you're not going to hear of someone raping a fully alert adult lioness, more along the lines of "Man appears to have been partially de-clothed by lioness that mauled him to death").

PS. I know humans are technically animals.
I never mentioned acting on them. I was referring to the thoughts themselves.

When someone admits they would like to have sex with a child, they are normally considered 'sick'. Is it right for someone to assume that?
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I'd say that's entirely opinionated, I don't think people really get to choose their fetishes so if they're not acting on them then you'd be persecuting them for something that (imo) is out of their control edit: and not hurting anyone.
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I think paedophilia may be derailing things here a bit. Strictly speaking paedophilia is not a fetish because the definition of a fetish requires that the object (specifically not a person) in question has no natural sexual appeal.

ie. it's not a fetish to want to have sex with a plastic vagina.
it is however a fetish to want to have sex with a rubber glove.

That should always remain in a different ballpark to perverse sex crime, and when you compare the 2 it becomes pretty obvious how harmless fetishes are when there's far worse hidden sexual activities going on behind closed doors.
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When someone admits they would like to have sex with a child, they are normally considered 'sick'. Is it right for someone to assume that?
An amazingly difficult question to answer. After all ,there are plenty of cultures in the world where 12 year olds get married. I must admit it gets me completely stumped sometimes.
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I think paedophilia may be derailing things here a bit. Strictly speaking paedophilia is not a fetish because the definition of a fetish requires that the object (specifically not a person) in question has no natural sexual appeal.
Define "Natural sexual appeal".
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I don't have a problem with someone being a paedophile as long as they aren't going around raping children. From what i've read, and I read about this a fair amount (I'm a law student with a particular interest in defendant's right), it appears to me that paedophilia is no less avoidable than being gay. You can't help where your attractions lie and you can't be "cured", punishing someone for thought crime is wholly reprehensible.

As for fetishes, I have a few, some of them are odd, some are rather common. I have a friend with some that are baffling to me and mine are alien to him, it's a pretty personal thing.
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Define "Natural sexual appeal".
I'd assume it's something normally not in normal sex. For example people with a foot fetish, when you're having sex your feet are rarely a part of it, let alone the basis of it.

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As for fetishes, I have a few, some of them are odd, some are rather common. I have a friend with some that are baffling to me and mine are alien to him, it's a pretty personal thing.
What are yours, anyways?
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^^^ learn to extrapolate.
Careful, you're sounding interested
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As long as its kept in private, the public has no right to criticize fetishes.
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I'd assume it's something normally not in normal sex. For example people with a foot fetish, when you're having sex your feet are rarely a part of it, let alone the basis of it.
And now I'm going to ask you what is 'normal' in sex then.

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And now I'm going to ask you what is 'normal' in sex then.

Careful with your answers
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Touche. But most people know what's normal with sex, and then the things that are different from that.
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What are yours, anyways?
Believe it or not, even in this semi-anonymous guise I'm not about to share that with you.

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Touche. But most people know what's normal with sex, and then the things that are different from that.
Hmm...I'll bet there are few people who's sex lives are only composed of the missionary position with the lights off for solely reproductive purposes (yes, that's an exaggeration of "normal sex" but you take my point). I think the vast majority of people have some deviant facet to their sexual nature, even if it's one of the more common deviations (now there's an oxymoron). For example latex, s&m and feet are all relatively common fetishes and yet none are a part of the base sexual act, that is, penetration. The fact that a fetish is common does not, I think, make it normal.

Btw, I'm writing that at almost 8am on no sleep so forgive me for any circularity or inconsistency. I tried to get my point across as best I could.
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I like pooping in my own eye with the lights off.

Problem?
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I like pooping in my own eye with the lights off.

Problem?
It's better with someone else...
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