TheHunter360

Its quite an interesting event happening in the Arab World currently, as a wave of revolutionary fever sweeps the region. Unfortunately for me most US news outlets have been limited when covering the recent events so I've had to look to the internet for my news. Anyways I'm disappointed on how the west is taking the events unfolding within the region.

I know the US has many strong allies in the region, but how can we gloat that we're the champions of democracy when all our government is reluctant to take action against leaders who are willing to kill their people in the hundreds to stay in power?

Take Libya for example, they've started using the Air Force to bomb protesters. Is a US approved No-fly zone too much to ask for? We've done it in Iraq and Serbia to support anti-regime groups, why can't we at least give some aid to the Arab World?

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abc

Bear in mind that bar Iran and Libya the governments being revolted against are western backed, so why would the west seek to remove them? Egypt, Bahrain, Israel, Yemen to name some.


The US is not some God given country put there to free the world of evil. The entire west, nevermind just the US, can't occupy/drastically-interfere with every single problemed country. Also I think it's well worth considering the outcome (as far as the west, i.e. the people who pay for it, are concerned) of recent history, in the eyes of the world:

Vietnam - went wrong, quite badly
Iraq '91 - went wrong (ironically because it went so well it was cut short of what was seen as "best" for the region, by the west)
Somalia '93 - went very wrong.
Afghanistan - went wrong, bad press.
Iraq '03 - went wrong, bad press.


Other things, e.g. Gulf war, Iraq's '91 to '02 no-fly-zone, somalia, were UN sanctioned. Of course these are all examples of trying to resolve problems with military action, doesn't have to be like that.



Invoking change is very difficult in our own western countrys, nevermind another country, due to red tape.

Serious point #2: What % of government business do the public see? Letalone what % of what we see, portrayed by the media, is in context and fully factually correct? There will be a hell of a lot of lobbying & pressure going on behind the scenes between various governments. The CIA supplied the Mujahadeen with FIM-92 Stingers during the 70s - if the US are willing to supply guided anti aircraft missiles to a political group that they support to use against a non-supported government then I'm sure they're doing a hell of a lot of other things in between.

The west has awe inspiring technology, but even more awe inspiring amounts of red tape. Home owners being sent to prison for pointing shotguns at burgulars. Terrorist suspects not being deported because of their human rights (Didn't do Law at A-Level or anything but I'm pretty sure all 60 million brits have the human right to be "free from danger" or equivilantly worded) the police not being allowed to do anything ever.



If I had the power to rename countries, I'd live in the United-States-of-Red-Tape-and-Brussell's-Laws and the US would be called The-United-States-of-Slightly-Less-Red-Tape.



Also there's the immoral fact that without the world exactly the way it is someone could not buy a farm, buy seeds, plant a cotton plant, harvest the plant, build a factory, employ workers, buy machinery, produce some socks, cut down a rainforest, engineer a ship, build a cargo ship, employ people to drive and manage cargo ship to take said rainforest half way around the world to another factory to be turned into packaging to put said socks into, before building the infrastructure to get my socks from mainland to port, possibly onto same cargo ship and half way around the world (don't forget this requires 100s of years of design engineering to get to combustion engines, oil exploration and continental shipping) onto another lorry into various further infrastructures before eventually ending up on the shelf of a shop 5 minutes from my house for a whopping total of £3.99... Our lifestyle requires greed, imbalance and the conflict to sustain the imbalance.

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pantstofry

The U.S. tries too hard to be the parent nation for everybody. Quite frankly, although we're supposed to be "role models" for every other nation, I'm sick of intervening everywhere. abc's point is perfect. We've not done much good intervening, and when our country is quite shitty, I don't like that we're shelling out everything to these countries. Of course I want the best for the Arab World and it would be great if we helped, but we're fucked up as is...

I mean, we have plenty of untapped oil within our borders, but why don't we drill it? Environmental groups. Makes me sick; we wouldn't have to depend completely on the Middle East, and instead we're letting the made-up environmental movement suppress our effectiveness. A small group of people dictating what we do? Pisses me off.

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