Broken Game or Broken Community?

[Akimbo]

Originally Posted by Alk

i hope this doesnt start a flame war..

Ha...well, I think it did.

[Olaf Vikingsson]

Originally Posted by PrkchpsNaplsaws

But to say weapons are unbalanced is just being a pussy.

Back your argument up.

[IpHeX]

Neither the MW2 game or community is broken, I personally prefer cod4 topic maybe a wishful thought...

meh, I like both

[James161324]

I love mw2 but both are broken. Here's what i dislike
1. Reduce the chopper gunner time down to were the ac130's time.
2. Take away akimbo for shotguns.
3. Fix the commando glitch were they can't be killed when they starting the animation.
4. Fix the care package runner glitch
5. Fix one man army so you can have noob tubes forever.
7. If you want to stop people from camping take away the nuke, the chopper, gunner, the ac130, the emp and the pavelow. Theirs not reason to camp if there aren't overpowered ks.

[R_BURGUNDY]

I don’t think it’s the game it’s the people that play it that mess things up…

Then there’s the LAG which is not as bad as COD4 and is to be expected with online games and all the multiply WAN connection, bottle necks could occur.

At the end of the day we our part of a network of players who mostly have no connection to you at all they our not your friends or family and have there own life’s and evidently playing styles!!

If you don’t like it don’t play online.

i hate the 1887 akimbo and the care package runners and all the rest of it but I consider my self quiet a good player and I kill them with my TAR-21 durrrr!!!

I must say the lunging knife guys make me crazy!! I just aim for there heads you only get one try so don’t miss lol

all fare in love and war

[Platy]

The community is more broken than the game, as they feel the need to complain about everything.

[Downside]

Problem is a broken game breeds a broken community and this game is very broken.

[James161324]

Originally Posted by PlatypusFeatures

The community is more broken than the game, as they feel the need to complain about everything.

But you know why people complain. Becuase iw only fixes stuff if enough people complain about it

[joemiken]

Most of the community unbearable to listen to. The IW forums are pretty much unreadable (and they wonder why Robert Bowling never posts there anymore lol).

There are some things I would've done differently with the game though. Dual wield shotties are one. Replace akimbo with FMJ and add extended mags or something. A game search system that takes into account regions would've been nice. Nothing better than getting thrown into a game of people from Europe and having yellow bars. The party invite system is kinda clunky and drawn out too. I like COD4's invite system a LOT better. I would also like to see chopper gunner and AC-130 killstreaks removed from care packages. A game of Domination I was in yesterday had someone get one very early in the game from a care package and really put us in a hole. 4 kills in a row should not get you an 11-kill killstreak.

I do enjoy the game, but there are some things that really irk me about it. Doesn't mean I'm going to rage out and cry on the internets about it. It is just a game...

[Platy]

Originally Posted by Downside

Problem is a broken game breeds a broken community and this game is very broken.

Do you really think that if this game was perfect that some people wouldn't find something to complain about? This game isn't as broken as many people think it is, it has a lot of annoying aspects but if it was broken it'd be 100% unplayable.

Originally Posted by James161324

But you know why people complain. Becuase iw only fixes stuff if enough people complain about it

True, but half the stuff people complain about is something that doesn't need fixing.

[Downside]

I remember joining a Cod4 forum when it first came out and apart from post about every other gun being over powered and a few rants about matyrdom its was pretty mute.

This game however seems to have tons of videos showing glitches, hacks, set up abuse etc that it just seems so much worse than the previous MW. Yea cod4 may have had nade and noob tube spam but at least once the they had been used they were gone until they respawned.

The problem is the community wanted more of everything from the previous game and they got it, unfortunately it seems to be a double edged sword as we also got more problems as well.

[James161324]

Originally Posted by PlatypusFeatures

Do you really think that if this game was perfect that some people wouldn't find something to complain about? This game isn't as broken as many people think it is, it has a lot of annoying aspects but if it was broken it'd be 100% unplayable.



True, but half the stuff people complain about is something that doesn't need fixing.

what you said is true.
but this was one the most hyped game of all time.
and had the biggest release of all time. so the exceptions were super high.
No matter what there are some problems that need to be address. They may not make the game unplayable yet.
But who says a month down the road. The flaws the community trys to point out now. Doesn't ruin the game.

[diego]

The only thing that pisses me off about the game is killstreaks. I think it plays a lot better than cod4 but they ruined it with all the new bollocks. chopper gunned spamming a map non stop for a fucking minute, people having a pavelow and harrier in the air at the same time. boring. snd is especially just shit when you've got choppers in the air. i'd have been happy if they left killstreaks alone from cod4.

[UKz JoKeR]

Originally Posted by amorant

i dont like the game, and i am playing cod4 again,but it's not because i think the game is broken.i just dont like the style of play in mw2.i cant really put my finger on it,but when i play cod4 it's exciting and intense.modern warfare2 imo is boring and and frustrating.now mind you i have a solid 2.00 kdr in mw2,and cod4 is around 1.45 so its not that i suck at the game it just doesnt do it for me.i do play it just about everyday hoping to eventually like the game more.

I feel the exact same way, Modern Warfare 2 requires less skill than in cod 4, I really liked playing cod 4 and still do, Im also fed up with all the glitchers in MW2, it really pisses me off. I like to play tactical and it just doesn't do it for me although my K/D is better in mw2 than COD4

[PrkchpsNaplsaws]

Originally Posted by ViS

Back your argument up.

Alright:

I can easily kill anyone using Akimbo 87's.
Lots of people use lots of different weapons. If any one weapon was severely over powered, then everyone would use that weapon.

Its a simple concept that nearly every human being possesses:

Ego.

People allow their ego's to convince their minds that they just died, not because the other person one-up'd them, but because the game its self must be flawed.

"He killed me because he has a more powerful gun" is such a lame complaint. It may be TRUE, but the fact is some guns are more powerful than others. If you dont like it, then always use the more powerful gun. If everyone gun were identical to the others, then whats the difference in having different guns? Just make 1 gun and everyone uses that.

Just because you, personally, can't figure out a way to over come an obstacle doesn't mean that the obstacle is rigged or unfair.

It just means that you can't do it.

[Olaf Vikingsson]

Originally Posted by PrkchpsNaplsaws

I can easily kill anyone using Akimbo 87's.

Of course, the weapon that someone's using is the only thing that determines their performance.

Grow a brain.

[Farenheit-]

Saying something is unbalanced in a game like Mw2 is kind of ridiculous. Every weapon and perk and equipment that ANYONE can get is accessible to EVERYONE ELSE.
Gettin' raped by 1887s? Fight fire with fire.
Care package knifed? You can run that fast too.

I honestly don't see imbalances in the game NOT because I don't know better, but because everyone has the same tools, and it all depends on how you use them.

[Voodoo]

Originally Posted by Farenheit-

Gettin' raped by 1887s? Fight fire with fire.
Care package knifed? You can run that fast too.

I honestly don't see imbalances in the game NOT because I don't know better, but because everyone has the same tools, and it all depends on how you use them.

Providing you are >66 during that period.

There are imbalances, however as you've pointed out they can be used by all. Glitches are different i.e care package and unnerfed 87's that should be fixed by IW. Hence why I think the game is a little cracked, not quite broken but definately some chinks in the armour.

[Downside]

I know people always say if your getting owned by whatever set up that person is using in that game be it CP runner or akimbo shottys etc then just use the same set up. The problem is not everyone has that set up as one of their classes so you can only use that set up if you created it before entering the game. So if you like to play using even a tiny bit of skill you wont have this class readily availale to you and would have to quit and lose any match bonus etc or just lump it which is not ideal.

Either that or waste a custom set up or 2 in the vague belief that you might ecounter someone else using it to kill you.

[R_BURGUNDY]

If you suck that much USE the copy CAT thing?

i use pain killer and comes in handy when im haveing a bad period i dont have bad days cuz i am allways calm and know how to turn off my PS3 and do something eles for a while

[ToomsYF]

i think copy cat is by the worst death streak.

i've never seen the point of it really. As it lasts for only one life, and as it's new to you (or supposed to be) you probably wont last that long with it!

[Downside]

Copycat is the worst death streak. I actually wish you could choose to have no deathstreak instead of copycat. Spwaning with some random weapons and perks is really disorientating when your not expecting it. Also if some guy has a set up that keeps owning you whats to say he gets the kill when you get the copycat? Sods law dicatates that the one kill by normal player will be the one you end up copying!

[Olaf Vikingsson]

You people are stupid.

Game balance is achieved when EVERY OPTION is equally EFFECTIVE (with the exception of a few options that are intentionally WORSE than others for the sake of novelty) without compromising variety. This is never achieved fully but MW2 is pretty much as far from it as can be.

[Alphabuster187]

The game isn't broken, it has flaws but then again I have yet to find a perfect game, I enjoy it very much.

Community? Just a melting pot of different playing styles.

[Nibbles]

Originally Posted by ViS

You people are stupid.

Game balance is achieved when EVERY OPTION is equally EFFECTIVE (with the exception of a few options that are intentionally WORSE than others for the sake of novelty) without compromising variety. This is never achieved fully but MW2 is pretty much as far from it as can be.

I agree about game balance but I believe you're exaggerating when it comes to MW2 being that far off the scale. Sorry, but if you're going to say that MW2 is about as imbalanced as it possibly can be you should really back it up. You either know something worth sharing or your gaming experience is lacking - I would guess it's the former.

Whether your opinion is that it's "so obvious you'd be stupid to miss it" or not, it's worth stating. I'm genuinely intrigued and btw still waiting for that essay!

All I've seen so far (besides the usual redundant ramble about glitches, 1887's, etc) are a whole heap of examples why people don't like the game which seems to be because it's so different to their expectation of what MW2 would be which was built up from experiences with CoD4.