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Old 02-28-2010, 02:15 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Default Why no MW2 Rifle/Gun Range?

When I'm trying out different weapon/perk set-ups I like to got into a Private match, but really it doesn't let me test out my combo. What I would like to see is a game option/map maybe called "The Range" with the option to set up the number of Bots that you could use to test things out, and if you needed to tweak the set-up there could be a game option to go back make the modification and resume the map.

It would be so much easier than doing this in an actual game. Just my thoughts.
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Old 02-28-2010, 02:17 PM   #2 (permalink)
 
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Default Re: Why no MW2 Rifle/Gun Range?

Just look at that gun stats chart.

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Default Re: Why no MW2 Rifle/Gun Range?

...but you have said in numerous posts that gun stats in the game aren't accurate and wrong.
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Default Re: Why no MW2 Rifle/Gun Range?

He's talking about the ones that list damage and rate of fire, etc, with numbers. E.g, Den Kirson's stuff.
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...but you have said in numerous posts that gun stats in the game aren't accurate and wrong.
The Real Gun Stats Chart, however i'd agree that it's sometimes difficult to actual visualise how the numbers affect you, i'd support the introduction of something like you suggest.
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Old 02-28-2010, 03:13 PM   #6 (permalink)
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When I'm trying out different weapon/perk set-ups I like to got into a Private match, but really it doesn't let me test out my combo. What I would like to see is a game option/map maybe called "The Range" with the option to set up the number of Bots that you could use to test things out, and if you needed to tweak the set-up there could be a game option to go back make the modification and resume the map.
Now where have I seen this exact thing twice before...?

Oh yeah. A mod for COD2 and COD4 (The COD2 one was hilarious btw, sniping/shotgunning germans who are running around on horses wielding machine guns?)



In all seriousness, yeah it was good to play against lots of bots and being able to pick any combination of perks/weapons/attachments in game without needing to make a class for it, but I never used it much. The only thing it told you that stat charts don't tell you (well actually they do, but no-one looks at anything but the damage column...) is how easy it is to track targets at different ranges with different weapons, sights and perks.
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A bot mode would be cool. Nice idea!
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Default Re: Why no MW2 Rifle/Gun Range?

i agree ... i always wanted that... but .. imac girl heres what i do...
go 2 player and turn on online unlocks... then u can practice shooting at player 2 in split screen
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i agree ... i always wanted that... but .. imac girl heres what i do...
go 2 player and turn on online unlocks... then u can practice shooting at player 2 in split screen
Thanks I'll try that.
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Default Re: Why no MW2 Rifle/Gun Range?

Actually any map is a range. You can see your precision by the recoil and bulletholes in the walls.
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Actually any map is a range. You can see your precision by the recoil and bulletholes in the walls.
you cant get the feel for damage tho...which is a big thing
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you cant get the feel for damage tho...which is a big thing
Why the fuck would you need a "feel" for the damage when Den has all of the numbers online? -_-;
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Default Re: Why no MW2 Rifle/Gun Range?

im aware of the numbers... its not news... but fire rate and recoil affect your ability to hit each bullet
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im aware of the numbers... its not news... but fire rate and recoil affect your ability to hit each bullet
That still doesn't explain why one needs a "feel" for bullet damage.
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Default Re: Why no MW2 Rifle/Gun Range?

let me re-phrase then... its not bullet damage that you need a feel for... its one's own ability to fire different weapons with different perks on... aka hip firing with steady aim on... or even using rapid fire on different smgs its nice to have practice
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Why the fuck would you need a "feel" for the damage when Den has all of the numbers online? -_-;
I think there's a big difference between staring at a couple of statistics and actually playing around with the gun in-game.
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Experience > Charts & Numbers

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i dont see how someones ability to "read" stats lets them get a feel for the different recoil of each gun.
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i dont see how someones ability to "read" stats lets them get a feel for the different recoil of each gun.
Damage, not recoil.
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Default Re: Why no MW2 Rifle/Gun Range?

oh, didnt see that, well i myself have never felt damage before soo. comment retracted.
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It's pretty bloody obvious that the average person is not going to simply have an inate knowledge of the 'feel' a 700rpm gun has compared to a 650rpm gun. Trying them out is the only sensible way to truly know how something is going to behave in the field. That's why anyone doing anything of any importance at all in real life tends to practice rather than simply read instructions and assume they've understood correctly.
Vis - Why criticise someone for wanting to practice? To do so is petty, childish, and frankly beneath what I'd expect from anyone who commands respect on this forum.
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