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Old 04-17-2010, 08:09 PM   #26 (permalink)
 
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The data is right here in front me yet for some reason I can hardly manage to get any kills when aiming from the hip with my spas. If I ADS I can take down waves of enemys, but when I try to fire from the hip I miss a lot more :|

This is only true for the spas which is odd, must just be a mental thing I guess.
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Old 04-18-2010, 03:57 AM   #27 (permalink)
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The data is right here in front me yet for some reason I can hardly manage to get any kills when aiming from the hip with my spas. If I ADS I can take down waves of enemys, but when I try to fire from the hip I miss a lot more :|

This is only true for the spas which is odd, must just be a mental thing I guess.
Same for me. I just jumped on the SpasLol bandwagon a few days ago, and I remembered seeing this thread so I was firing from the hip.

But today, I was running Lightweight Pro (love quick aim after sprint), and I swear I was doing better when I started ADS instead of hipfiring. I just felt like I was able to lock on to targets better than when I was hipfiring and was missing alot less.

I didn't notice a considerable decrease in the range I was pulling off kills at, either. Everything in what should be an effective shotty range was going down in one shot just about every time.
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Old 05-26-2010, 10:11 AM   #28 (permalink)
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I always ADS with the spas, just cause it looks cool on the kill cams, but with the other shotguns i dont bother, i just spray and hope for the kill.
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Old 05-26-2010, 02:32 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Default Re: Why you should NEVER ADS with a shotgun

Since your first test was dont with Steady Aim, I went and tested without it (as well as with). Thiis what I found:

With Steady Aim, the hip spread was considerably tighter than ADS spread.

Without Steady Aim, the hip spread was not noticably tighter than the ADS spread on a regular basis. It would randomly get tighter/wider spreads. Really didn't see a significant difference.

So, I think the conclusion is that if you are using Steady Aim, don't ADS. If you dont, it doesn't really matter. If you could prove/disprove that with pics, that would be awesome.
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First is hipfire, second is ADS. Model 1887 has a very noticable difference.
No Steady Aim used.

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I myself never have, and never will, ADS using a shotgun. And now it has been confirmed there is very little/no reason to.
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SPAS w/ Extended Mag is NASTY
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Old 05-26-2010, 11:11 PM   #33 (permalink)
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First is hipfire, second is ADS. Model 1887 has a very noticable difference.
No Steady Aim used.

Did you do multiple tests/multiple shots side by side? It seemed for me that the spread randomly got tighter/wider without Steady Aim when hipfiring.
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Default Re: Why you should NEVER ADS with a shotgun

Even though it was only one test, the pictures show that hipfire is not able to shoot with a spread as wide as with ADS. It is possible though that ADS sometimes shoots with a smaller spread, this test cannot rule that out. I shot all my ammo at one spot, mainly because I couldn't see how wide the spread was with only one shot.
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First is hipfire, second is ADS. Model 1887 has a very noticable difference.
No Steady Aim used.
These pictures look like they're from slightly different distances, though it could just be a slightly varying angle.
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These pictures look like they're from slightly different distances, though it could just be a slightly varying angle.
I noticed the same thing and didn't think it was enough to really make a difference. However, if anything the ads is closer than the hip fire which should reduce the ads spread.
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These pictures look like they're from slightly different distances, though it could just be a slightly varying angle.
He is looking slightly further up on the bottom picture. A miniscule difference in distance would only have a very minimal effect anyway.

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You deserve a thanks for legitimately getting to 1000 posts.

And I ADS with shotguns because its a habit. IMO the models don't have a huge difference compared to the spas or other shotties
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I can't help it, I ADS most of the time. I need to get used to not doing it as often.
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