TheBowser701

Now before everyone starts yelling "Rabble Rabble Rabble!" Let me explain.

A long time ago, I had a friend who loved call of duty. I decided to hop on the train and got MW2. Since this was the first ever COD game I got, I loved it, and I was really good at it too. For some reason though, my friend hated it. I always asked him why, and he said "The killstreaks". I always told him that they were cool and fun, but I know now why.

This game has totally been changed because of the killstreaks. Honestly, tell me, have you ever just sat and camped waiting to get a nuke screwing over the enemy team without giving a crap towards your teams objective? We all, including me, have.

These killstreaks changed us, and they are also extremely overpowered, but not all. Let me show some examples.

Tactical Nuke-This is the biggest and most obvious. You get 25 flawless kills, you win. People will just sit and camp without giving 2 cents to your team. Getting this killstreak? You win. Game over. I have never seen anything this overpowered. You simply win the game, common now.

Chopper gunner-This thing has extremely fast shooting, unlimited ammo, very powerful, and freezes foes (you know, have you ever been shot while running then pushed back?). To boot, if someone is in a house and you just fire at the doorway, you'll probably get them (if they are relatively close).

Pavelow-This thing shoots up everyone on the map and probably more powerful than the chopper gunner. It also takes two shots to shoot down.

Emergency Airdrop-You get four freaking random killstreaks rewards, wtf. While they are take-able, if you get a decent drop you can totally wipe out the enemy team 3 times. Once I got a chopper gunner, pavelow, harrier, and airstrike, common that is extremely unfair and totally puts the enemy team at a huge disadvantage.

While for one, these killstreaks are (and you have to agree, common a weapon that just immediately lets you win the game, wtf). Games have changed from capture the flag to capture the killstreak, it's like the main point of the game now. People are so obsessed with killstreaks that they nuke boost, thats not what this game is about. It's about playing the game, and using teamwork and cunning with strategy to complete the objective.

While I'm not saying all killstreaks are bad, a lot are still good, useful, and not totally cheap. These are such as UAV, Predator missile, attack helicopter, EMP, etc.

From now on though, I'm going with the basic setup of UAV, Care Package, and Predator missile, and I hope that you will join me, instead of sitting in a corner waiting for a nuke.

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Platy

I agree.

When I go back and play CoD4, which I'm doing more often now. It's such a relief to only be faced with simple killstreaks. Makes the game flow much better.

IW just went too far in the wrong direction and ruined the game. MW3 would/should have been the balance between them, but I doubt it'll ever be now.

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WhyVII

MW3 is not the next call of duty game to be coming out. It's called "Black Ops" and Treyarche is the company behind it. As to the killstreaks I agree. However, at least in this game once you die they don't count towards your killstreak. In COD4, if you got one helicopter, it turned into an endless loop of air support ha ha. But I agree. I don't think killstreaks are overpowered because shooting them down is not hard. However it changed how people were playing the game, which sucked

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Platy

I know MW3 isn't the next CoD coming out. MW3 should have been the next game IW made, but they'll probably be closed down by Activision before that happens.

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beasTer

I normally run Care Package -> Predator -> Harrier these days, simply because I normally get UAVs from the care package (and even the Ammo crates are fine since I don't use Scavenger) but once in a while it can turn the tide of a match. However with this setup, I don't ever feel the need to camp to boost up for my killstreak. I normally end up getting at least 2-3 predators per match and occasionally 2-3 harriers (not including my care package rewards).

I will say that I wouldn't mind seeing simpler killstreaks in the future in place of ones that do all the killing for you. Or at least make it so killstreaks don't chain each other.

Naga

I've ranted about this before (see sig).

Killstreaks themselves aren't a bad idea, just the execution is horrible. I like the UAV, airstrike, counter-UAV, EMP, sentry, stealth bomber, and the care package (for ammo restock and low killstreak rewards ONLY). Attack helicopter was way buffed in MW2; it shoots you, you're basically dead, unlike the one in CoD4 which wasn't pinpoint accurate and didn't ALWAYS get a kill in a single burst.

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What I really liked about COD4, was EVERYONE had the same setup, so you knew exactly what to expect.

3 - UAV
5 - Airstrike (though I like in MW2 that you can choose the direction)
7 - Chopper

Also, in COD4, with the complete lack of lockon rocket launchers I found alot of people shoot them down when they went up.

The killstreaks I find reasonable in this one are

UAV
Counter UAV
Care Package(though should give limit of up to the 9 kill killstreaks)
Sentry Gun
Predator
Airstrike
Harrier Strike
Attack Chopper

And thats about it, the rest I completely disagree with (I do use them, but I find them cheap as hell)

E-Drop is ridiculous
Pavelow is the only borderline one, but should be less accurate.
Stealth Bomber - This sucks, pure and simple. I hate it.
Gunner - Ridiculous, that is all.
AC130 - ^^^^^^
EMP - Makes no sense how a EMP can only affect enemy players
Nuke - Why? Seriously, Why?

What I think they should do, is make ALL killstreaks (except Sentry Gun wont lock onto friendlies) lethal to teammates as well.

That would make it fair, obviously have a booting system in place for people who are team-killing on purpose to be removed.

AC130 and Gunner should NOT be remote controlled but should retain their effectiveness.

Basically you choose the areas you want them to watch and leave it like you do the harriers.

That would be fair.

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EndlessMike

IW definitely took the series in a different direction.

However, the next CoD is coming out this year and Treyarch has expressed reserve about alot of things IW did with CoD:MW2, so no doubt they are listening and I'm fully expecting CoD: Black Ops to be on the same level as CoD4 when it came out.

For now however I will continue to play MW2, sure it can get frustrating at times, and once you get frustrated than that's when things really turn bad.

However, MW2 does have it's moments and I respect it's place in the CoD series.

Freespace535

Ever since I unlocked it, I made a class with Cold Blooded and stingers. Whenever I hear 'enemy this or that incoming', I switch to that class. Usually it will kill me once, at which point I get the new class and shoot it down. The only problem is the AC-130, because moronic teammates never try to shoot it down as well, so I can't shoot it down myself.

I actually get pretty good luck with all other killstreaks. People say pavelow takes two shots but I've either had amazing timing (in that people always damage it just enough with bullets for me to shoot it down in one shot, which it always does) or it only takes one stinger. I am usually able to get right under the KS, so the flares are ineffective most times (whichever ones have flares that is).

And of course theres nothing to do about the nuke, which is bs.

I was actually just talking about this earlier today in a match, and I said it once and I'll say it again: If I ever meet the c*nt at IW that thought up chopper gunner, I'll punch him in the dick.

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If its TDM, I will frag myself just so I can shoot it down

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mattv2099

Cool story, bro.

but, "common", the game is what it is. Take it or leave it.


I'll take it. I've played FPS on PC for the last 17 years. This is the most enjoyable one yet.

You sound like you want to play care bear adventure or something.

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TheHunter360

I can't believe I use to think the chopper in cod4 was overpowered

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pantstofry

I agree with the OP, except on Emerg Airdrop...
yes, you can get 4 awesome killstreaks. but more often than not its nothing more than a counter uav, which is totally not worth 8 kills. Plus you have to expose yourself to enemies because the plane takes forever to get there. But otherwise it can be pretty OP. I run around with a sniper now so its a wonder I ever do get an EAD

Call Me Vanilla

really i think you guys are forgetting with the 3 kill streaks in cod there was no variation, if you had a chopper you had to wait there was so little going on. They added a ton of air support but they also added a ton of lock on launchers and options to take them down, stingers have 2 rockets you can take out anything in less then 10 seconds.

CoD 4 was just routine it was fun dont get me wrong but for the most part everyone just ran around with mp5 3 frag, SP, steady aim. I went back to play it the other day and the first thing i noticed was lack of sound, it was so dead, footsteps at a whisper, no backround sounds, just crazy dead. Theres no doubt that your required to play MW2 differently then cod4, but thats to be expected since is a different game.

IMO killstreaks only ruined it for the people who are still trying to play cod4 on mw2.

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astrolam

I agree with Vanilla. Its a different game, you cant always be comparing the latest game to its predecessor. mw2 is riddled with a ridiculous amount of air support and yes CG is sometimes ridiculous. But, L2ADAPT! dont be a caek and just hope someone else shoots it down. point your damn gun at the helicopter and shoot it. sure you might die, but then you have the perfect opportunity to change class. amazing. you can now kill the air support with your BAZOOKA! while only accumulating 1 death.

life is beautiful. now go pwn it up

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OzballO

Hahahahahaha oh ok I'm good now. Anyway killstreaks are the only reason I play MW2. This is what I find fun about the game and always interesting. While playing MW1 I had always wanted higher killstreaks. With that said Tactical Nuke is completely worthless and should be thrown to the wolves. Everything else I like, only some of the perks need to be killed.

gerry13cs

admittedly IW has added alot of killstreaks however there's still a way to defend against them:there are harriers,helis,choppers etc. but there are also stingers,javelin ,cold-blooded...

Butters

This.

Th3 R3volution

Lol, I thought the same thing, I hated it.

I don't play MW2 much anymore, you can do 25-0 while only getting 5 kills:

Pred-->harrier-->chopper gunner/Ac130

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Platy

Lol @ people who missed the point.

The killstreaks, although overpowered and ridiculous, aren't the main problem. The main problem is that by including them in the game, IW has completely changed this into a Scout game. Who sets up the best camping site wins.

Hell, 4 kills, you have a chance of a CG. How is that skill? Sure you can shoot them down, but why should anyone have a chance of an 11 kill reward after only 4 kills. It's crazy.

CoD4 is, I'll repeat this as much as I like, so much better in almost every way.

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Don't Eat The Fish

I've taken to using UAV - Counter UAV - Harrier. You actually have to work for your kills.

When somebody calls in a Chopper, I switch to my air support (Stinger, CB, etc) class, commit suicide and shoot it down within 20 seconds. They're way too overpowered. I think they should limit the ammo, or at the very least make you have to reload.

Nuke should be taken out of the game. It doesn't do anybody good.

Emergency Airdrop should be 2 killstreaks, not 4.

They should also have made the BTR and Stryker Gunner killstreaks, but that's beside the point xD

Enough of my rambling though.

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Call Me Vanilla

I disagree with you completely first IW didn't change anything they made an actual new game not just a patch on cod4.

Second theres no way you can think care packages are unbalanced its the first thing i take off when i prestige and unlock new kill streaks, the chances of getting anything good are so slim its not even worth the risk of dying, the kills you get from anything in a carepackage dont even add onto your streak.

and 3rd, the only way someone is gonna sit in 1 spot camping and get 11 kills is if people don't learn and just run at him, noob tubes rape campers simple as that. Whenever i get killed and see someone camping in a building i swap classes and go kill him with an aa-12 or noob tube.

comparing cod4 to mw2 is like comparing tomatoes and ketchup, they are different things, they added alot of stuff and changed the dynamics of the game, but id say it was for the better. If you were ever on any forums for cod4 you would know people were bitching about how shitty the knifing was, the juggernaut, martyrdom, lack of killstreaks, etc etc. If you think that mw2 isn't what the people asked for then your living in your own world.

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Cloud

Killstreaks reward selfish gameplay, I like the TC thought they would be cool having more killstreaks at first and more variety which seems great but people just abuse the shit out of the stuff in this game which is awful and takes the fun out of it. Sure you can use things to take down a chopper gunner but it's kinda hard if the game spawns you and your teammates in the same spot and the guy in the chopper gunner can mow you down before you can even think about moving.

Oh and the knifing for MW is NOTHING compared to MW2's, juggernaught was not as bad as people made it out to be, martyrdom got ridiculous in the end but MW had way less problems than MW2 IMO.

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Platy

I didn't really compare them. I just said that CoD4 is a better FPS.

MW2 has taken away from the FPS aspect and place a lot of emphasis on killstreaks. Maybe this is a good thing, it keeps more people playing because of the variety. However, from my point of view, it ruins the balance and flow of the game.

Also, it doesn't always take 11 kills to get a CG. As was pointed out earlier, 5 kills can be enough. Get a double with your Predator, Harriers do the rest of the work.

Don't give me the "wahwahwah can be shot down" speech. That's not the point, the fact is that it can be done. Just like on CoD4, you could save a helicopter and use it to build another killstreak. It's a massive flaw in the game and requires 5 (4 with hardline) kills to achieve.

But as we know, MW2 isn't aimed at skilled gamers. It's all about the money.

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I have only one response to killstreaks talkled about in this thread.

RPD
Stinger

Sleight of Hand
CB
Steady Aim

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