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Old 10-13-2009, 10:29 AM   #1 (permalink)
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We want dedicated servers! Thanks
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Who said we wouldn't have them?
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They wouldn't dare not have them tbh
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BASHandSlash.com - MW2: Dedicated servers in question?
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I agree with Ripcord.
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It's all speculation till you hear it from IW or 402.
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Well then I hope they post something to show this is not the case!
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Well then I hope they post something to show this is not the case!
I hope it's not either but until I hear from IW or 402 I'm just going to it leave at that. Here is something every one might find interesting. Tell me what this makes you think.

http://steamcommunity.com/groups/infinityward

Just heard Robert (402) confirm no Dedicated servers for PC on BASHandSLASH.
It's all matchmaking through IWnet. And no PunkBuster, it will be VAC for anticheat.
Here is a link to the webcast.

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Petition and Group links.

Dedicated Servers for CoD:MW2 Petition
Steam Community :: Group :: Boycott Modern Warfare 2 (WE WANT DEDICATED SERVERS)
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Thats me cancelled then.

A lot of other people too no doubt.
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Thats me cancelled then.

A lot of other people too no doubt.
OK, I'll admit it...I'm a noob to PC gaming...can someone explain why this is such a terrible world-ending thing?
 
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PC communities are very different from the console ones. Matchmaking systems just don't fit into it. It doesn't allow for modding either, so mods are out of the question. It removes competative gaming from the PC without things like promod. Also going from dedicated servers to one person hosting from their home PC is a step backwards for PC gaming, meaning lots of lag, ping disadvantage, connection problems.

What's worse is that because CoD is probably the biggest FPS series on PC, then other developers might look at it and decide to follow.


However a lot of people have cancelled pre-orders (including myself) and want to boycott sales numbers by not buying the game to send a message to IW. Realistically this is the only way they can really feel the impact of what they've done to the PC community.
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Hmmm...I see. Well it's not enough to make me cancel my order. I don't have enough money to buy another PS3 anyway and I still want to play the game.

I guess it's different for people like me who have always lived on the dark side! haha. Must admit though...the number of times I nearly threw my PS3 controller against the wall because lag caused me to die a horrible death at the hands of a bad player...
 
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Yea mines canceled also. Will wait and see if the modders can find away to do dedicated servers before I buy it. Possibly if enough boycott it then they will patch so we can have them.

Here is the official word on it from 402. skip ahead on the broadcast to 1:38 that is where he comes on.

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It has been announced that there will be no support or hosting for any Dedicated Servers for the PC version of this game . The only way you will have online gaming is if you host from your own computer, and it will be capped at 16 players. You will also have no control over your server, and the only way to enforce any rules will be by vote kicking......

Good luck to any clans/units that are going to try to switch over. We at the 7th Cavalry will not be moving this direction. This is pure idiocy.
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i need word from IW themselves (like a post from a REALY reliable source unlike the delayed rumors) before i beleive it.

It would loose alot of pc players if they did it
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Can someone that plays PC tell me how this is different than PC used to be?(I have never played CoD on the PC)
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i need word from IW themselves (like a post from a REALY reliable source unlike the delayed rumors) before i beleive it.

It would loose alot of pc players if they did it
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Gutted no ;onger excited about this games release . considering saving my money. no dedi severs is a joke
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IW forum is not good enough. nevertheless this is total LUNACY. What the hell are IW playing at. WORSE is they are trying to drum up features that we already have as though they are new and good.



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IW partnering through Steam is what you will see in the future. Matchmaking is not through Steam, but IW.NET is run in conjunction with Steam.
GSP's will no longer be renting out servers.
No PunkBuster. VAC will be used as an anti cheat.
Retail distribution: Pre-orders will get a disk. Or you could order from Steam.
DLC may now need to be paid for - not confirmed.
Piracy was only a small reason for going to IW.NET - not the whole reason.
Clans:

No more clan servers. Private matches, replace clan servers.
Listen servers will connect to each other.
IW.NET/Steam will replace the community server admin
Competitive Gaming

Competitive gaming has changed forever.
It might be possible in the future for IW engineers to load a "competitive" setting on IW.NET, but it is far from a guarantee. It might also never happen.
Modding

Modding the game is now very much in question. Fourzerotwo had no info on modding. However, it appears that there will be no mods or maps for MW2.
Modding in SpecOps? Unknown.

Today our game has changed for ever.

I'll leave this post with Josh Peckler's comments from planetmedalofhonor.com:

The server community is what's made us. It's what defined us.

IW.NET is getting the PC community to turn into consoles. You're trying to re-write our history.



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We're doing a lot on the backend to make the game accessible for everyone.
There is no delay for the PC version of MW2
There's prestige mode we had that already in the last COD you douchef***s
Jason West at the MP event, said that he was dead on, on the matchmaking servers. We've been building a system on the backend called IW.NET.
You are completely reliant on IW.NET. There are no server lists. There are no dedicated servers.
You have private matches where you can customize the game we could do that since cod1, again for someone who designs the game you are a complete idiot
You cannot put MW2 on a dedicated server. this means all the lag that consoles complained about in COD4, no customisation, no mods, probably no free content, probably have to pay for DLC and dare I say it if they own the servers what stops them saying "yeah, you can use our servers. for $xxx per month."
This is the first time we've ever done something like this and the team has huge plans for what IW.NET develops into.
Customizing your game...you have quite a few options in a private match but i bet nothing like the amount of options we had before when people owned their own server thus could do whatever they wanted to the game
You're getting same game (as in Console), making each platform equal is fair enough. But you RAISE THE STANDARD OF THE LOWEST QUALITY PLATFORM (possibly 360?) you don't make the best platform worse plus matchmaking and private match. we have private matches already. Oh and I can do my own match making thank you, I decide who I want to play with, not you?
Server admin point-of view, NO DEDICATED SERVERS


seriously I thought a certain community manager at IW was a bit of a twat anyway, focusing all his efforts purely on consoles rather than very ironically giving an equal share of attention to PC players (it is so ironic because COD is popular because of all the original games were only on PC. if it wern't popular then it wouldn't have taken off and branched to consoles thus they would not need a "community manager" thus he would not have a job)

but no, it appears the people behind MW2 are a bit odd as well in what they define as "improvements."

but now they are improving the console versions and making the PC version worse? I mean come on. lol not to mention they've raised the price of the PC version... and we get less of a game than COD2?[/spoiler]
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WTF were they thinking? This better be a fucking bad joke.
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welcome to the world of microsoft dishing them money and them making the game better for 360, worse for pc and ps3. to the point where, hey lets all buy 360's cuz 2v2 on a pc sucks. i'm sure 3v3 on 360 is much better.
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This sucks hugely. Not quite sure what IW is thinking with this one. FPS and PC go hand in hand. Doesn't make sense to cut out a huge segment of the gaming population with news like this. Plus, what happens to all the people/clans that have ponied up $100's for their own servers? They better be getting refunds. Bullshit, pure and simple.
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lets see, cut funding for dedicated pc servers... save 33,000,000$ put out 4 map packs for 360, ps3 and pc for 10$ each thats 40$ a player... with some 20-30,000,000 players on all 3 consoles...

hmm.. money whores. oh and iw buddied with steam so no more free maps for pc, you will have to pay same as 360 and ps3 for the 4 dlcs.
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Send a few angry e-mails to IW and Activision. Let them know how we really feel about it.
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OH F***


yeah, if they've partnered with steam (i.e. a company who SELLS games) that most likely means that all DLC will cost money AND you'll have to get it from steam - which is notoriously buggy.
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