Three Guys Play COD

Is it a high kdr? is it the ability to rush into groups endlessly getting killed until that once magical moment allows you to kill the whole group of them (all the while going like 10-20)? is it constant quickscoping and hitting you mark alot? cuz i've done some things that i think were fairly well done but apparently it "was all luck" and there have been some fairly average things that i've done or have seen done that were "pro" and stuff. and heres the question to everyone, what makes a person skilled at mw2?

pantstofry

They're skilled when they kill a lot of people. And don't die a lot.

Platy

It's when they don't get butthurt when a couple of people say something that you done wasn't that impressive.

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OzballO

Depends on what skill you are talking about. There are many skills. Calling out enemy positions can be considered a skill if done properly. Locking down an area kill very few people can be a skill cause people have to take a different route. Taking flags planting bombs can be a skill. Getting a high kd can be a skill.

Basically if you do it consistently then it is skillful. (My humble opinion)

TEH BUTCHER

Being skilled is a combination of a few things and having "skilled teammates" makes a huge difference.

1. Situational Awareness

Is it really necessary for 3 people to look down the same hallway? No Having teammates that recognize which directions their team is covering already and watching flanks or rear entrances is extremely helpful. Nothing sucks worse then being 1 away from a ACR or CG etc because someone flanked you when you had 3 teammates on your balls trying to sight down the same area as you. Also when teammates run in front of you it's extremely annoying because of how disrupting their name is to your view.

2. Being able to ADS quickly and accurately part of the reason why I use slight of hand is to beat people to the sight which is crucial for many mid range fights.

3. Map knowledge

4. Spawn Knowledge

5. Right gun for the right situation (part of the reason why I think quick scoping is gay) but unavoidable because of the auto aim mechanic.

6. Proximity awareness (good headset) and being aware of what's around you when to sight down a hall for a few seconds and when to sprint to a new location etc.

Dolfan1985

^^I agree

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not being a bitch is also skillful. i'm merely curious, you don't have to be a jerk about it. just trying to impress all y'all and put up something that people can enjoy and you have to be all negative nancy about this whole shpiel. seriously, only post if you have legitimate advice please.

to everyone else, thanks for the actual feedback. personally i think it's not being a detriment to your team and if you can be helpful and win, then it's skillful.

pantstofry

Hobbs said so.
/dantewhereru

Three Guys Play COD

well im trying to put out some stuff that will appeal to the majority of the forum and possibly the public and i'm trying to figure out what appeals to everyone and mr.man over there comes out and spews negativity and bitchiness. i'm sure that really helps.

dhoop17

Its cuz were NEWFAGS!!! apparently.

OT: Well i wouldn't go by KDR. I didn't hit 1.0 KDR unitl my 4-5 prestige. Now, its 1.45 but I remember it being less than .60. I have a buddy whose is 1.1 and he is certainly better than I lot of +2.00 that I've came across.
Anyway, afaic "skill" in this game is consistently doing well. If its TDM, then a high spread of kills and deaths. Domination, getting and holding positions. Etc., etc...
No-scopes across the map are not skill. Making a montage with 4 noscopes and a tk kill across the map is not skill.

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Platy

You will NEVER impress everyone. Get over it.

Just upload gameplay/commentries and don't try and claim that it's themostamazingshotevermade.

Good gameplay is better than a couple of luck shots.

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pantstofry

Skill is somewhat perceptive. Most of us on here view skill as basically being able to work tactically with your team to win the objective (i played with randoms who did this yesterday, it was quite refreshing) as well as being able to kill multiple enemies without dying.

But some 12 year old might view skill as being able to noscope somebody across the map.

Fandom Ruck

I'm a Uber Tuber.

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OzballO

Basically, most of the people that are around here consistently enjoy seeing actual gameplay showing good tactics. People can learn from these vids thus making them enjoyable to watch. Yeah, it's kinda funny to see something like your nades but to get actual compliments from it is not likely. "Like oh that's kinda funny." If you want to show things that are "skillful" post full game footage of you doing well using, "not so cheap", tactics. If respect is what you are looking for that's where I would start.

Three Guys Play COD

platy: then i'm asking this directly to YOU. what would YOU be impressed by? what would make YOU go "wow, that was kinda cool"? also, i didn't say it was the most amazing shot ever done. i said it was pretty good.

ozball: well literally every single tactic is cheap in mw2 depending on who you ask... if i put up a vid (hardcore, i don't usually play core), say i got 29-0, but it was camping/holding a spawn, would that be considered 'cheap'?

oneinchwunda

I can't wait for ViS' contribution to this thread.

I'm pretty sure, and he will confirm this, he is the most "skilled" (word is used loosely in context of this thread) player on this forum.

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OzballO

LIke you said it all depends on who you ask. I consider OMAlol cheap. I don't consider defending an area cheap. When you post you win some and you lose some. The "youtube" business is basically the same as said movie business. You need to grow a tough skin to survive. Essentially most people have no problems with someone who moves "strategically" around the map. Not gonna lie this group of people on the forum are fairly critical/demanding because the ones that stick around have similar viewpoints on how to "properly" play. If you want to see what people like check out the other threads that people have commented positively on.

TEH BUTCHER

Yea camping and holding a position are two different things.


Camping = sitting in some dark corner watching a 5x5 foot section of the map waiting for some prey to walk in. Holding a position you could be guarding a flank hallway or defending someone on their ACR/CH or holding the house on estate etc. Generally when a team is holding a position you know where they are (relative) and can attack from multiple angles. The guy sitting in the bathroom in estate with akimbo rangers is camping. The guy on the steps watching the front door isn't (IMO)

OzballO

Omg ur from Indiana too! Sweet.

dhoop17

Indiana...pffft....Illini FTW!

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basically running around with a vector will be fine then? i realize that im not gonna impress everyone but its just awfully annoying when you get zero actual feedback. if you think it sucks, then don't watch it, don't comment on it, move on. or at least not only put negative feedback. say something nice, then examine it critically as to why you don't think it's good. we're all people here, and i'm sure we all want some praise at some point.

to teh butcher: what about sitting at the office building of scrapyard watching the scrapyard spawn/the rest of the map?

Canada ftw.

pantstofry

HIGH FIVE!
hell yeah!

figures

OzballO

You can't not watch something and say it sucks with any legitimacy. If you watch something and you think its not good then many people will say it's not good. Hence, my tough skin analogy. One just needs to move on and look to something else if they want to please people. When you first learn to walk you are going to look retarded and fall down. It's all a learning process.

Edit: Illini psh.

NinJa

Old post by me:

Skill can be as advanced to having general knowledge of the maps, what guns to use, how to effectively spawn trap, planning flanking routes based off of enemy locations, and as simple as just staying alive.

If you are going to make a frag video or montage, I suggest you take at least a week to get good kills. Strings of kills, multiple snipes in a short time, showing the viewer at YOUR best. For montages you need to look and collect badass clips. Editing is always a plus.

However, a lot of us prefer full games with commentaries, tips to make us a better player, something entertaining. Granted, you may see threads like Voodoo's with a one million degree no-scope, however it was just a mockery of the players that actually believe no-scoping is skill when in fact, it's just luck.

Take a look at kll131's video about Painkiller, that actually was very humorous and showed the player massacring the enemy team, and ending it with a flashy bang. It was funny. However in your video, most people saw it as just a general know-how of where the grenade launcher will land, that and the fact that it was Hardcore. In Skuhs words, with 30 health, splash damage would easily kill anyone within a radius of the explosion. It was part-luck.

Don't feel discouraged though, we aren't here to flame every video you make and troll you into never coming back. Most users just give criticism when, and where they see fit. You can't really blame them either with all the hell the Media section has been through, especially since you were already banned once for spamming. It was nice to see however that you learned from the mistake and put an effort to contribute. Think of it this way. "What do I have to offer to this community, and YouTube players alike that they would want to watch my videos?".

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dhoop17

Ninja, you have got to be the most courteous, nice, helpful person I've came across on the Internets. Very good post.

Off topic: could someone expain the difference between a frag vid, daytage, and montage? Because I always hear peeps use these terms and I'm an idiot who doesn' know what the hell kids these days are talking about.

OT: Equating skill and viddy games is kind of pointless to begin with. Sure some are better than others, but honestly its all about mashing buttons.

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