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Old 09-19-2010, 12:06 AM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Default "Pro" Gameplay, hype?

Few things I want to go over with you guys.

First off, lets start quickscoping.

People say quickscoping is pro and it kicks ass...well I dont really see it. I personally dragscope(I think it's called that, when you quickly scope in, drag to target, scope out) which really comes in handy for me. I can also quickscope, but I just dont find it useful unless you come in really close quarters with someone. I went into this private game with some friend(like 8) and it was FFA in rust. Everyone said they're pro quickscopers, I got my intervention out, and ended with 30-12 dragscoping/hardscoping. I just cant see quickscoping as being good, but over praised due to hype and whatnot.

Next on is the tactical drop/jump.

I heard people say how useful it is to learn it, but on my end its just the same to kill them. basically if they drop, aim a bit lower, and if they jump, aim a bit higher. People using this rarely even kill me, and I honestly just find it more useful to just strafe to the side. You think tactical drop is just hype? This is all by opinion and how I view it.

Lastly, about Camping

People constantly criticize camping, but I'm just going to let urban dictionary take care of this one.

1. camper

A term given to those in an online multiplayer game (usually FPS) who will place themselves in a strategic position and wait for an extended period of time until a target enters his field of view. The position usually allows one to surprise the target and allows the "camper" to eliminate him with ease. There are variants of this such as camping an item to repeatedly gain its benefits and defending a critical location. Camping is a perfectly legitimate strategy, but is criticized by a majority of the online community, usually because players get frustrated by being killed in such a fashion, it slows the game down and is considered an unskilful art. Idiots always resort to insulting a camper, who will most likely have a higher score than them. Incompetent admins sometimes kick them and the camper society becomes one of ridicule and resentment. It isn’t illegal to position yourself in such a way that you have an advantage, that’s smart thinking and its part of the game. Some people need to grow some balls.
*Random moron runs around like a retard and subsequently becomes a campers prey. Camper makes a kill*

Random moron: OMG LAME FAG U SUXXORZ ONLY N00BS CAMP GETS SUM SKILLZ!!!!!11!!11!1111

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I don't care what is considered pro. Those I know that do care go negative frequently.
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The reason dropshotting works is because you go prone very quickly and become a smaller target in the process (just like last/final stand) which means the other player has to adjust their aim quite a bit while all that happens to you is the angle you're firing from changes. I don't think I've ever seen someone try and jump in a firefight though...
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The reason I hate campers in not because they kill me over and over. In fact, they are lucky to get me a second time before I get revenge. The reason I hate them is because it seems like they ALWAYS fucking buzzkill me when I'm 1 kill away from a killstreak. And I'm not taking about a camper in a usual camping spot.

If I get killed by one of them I'll blame myself. I rage when its some guy in a spot of the map that you never see anyone or the guy ADSing in a direction that makes absolutley no sense whatsover to ads in. You look at the end of the match and the guy is 5-8 or some crap, but his one freaking kill on me kept me from having a great game.
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It really doesnt change the playing field for me, i just aim down and kill them, but thats just me. I usually see people jump when they shotgun
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^ Its effective when either face to face with an enemy or just really close. Other than that, its kinda pointless.
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you can see how effective drop shooting is in my minitage/trailer
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I hate campers that STAY in the same place the whole game, and those who GO BACK there. I don't care about killing them to increase my killcount. Get the fuck up and move it, retard. Camping is the most stupidest, the most boring tactic in any COD game. There's a reason why COD is designed to be an ARCADE game.
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It really doesnt change the playing field for me, i just aim down and kill them, but thats just me. I usually see people jump when they shotgun
You are wrong about jumping/prone. It works, it's good.
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The "dolphin dive" as it is often referred is used by many players on PC due to the fact that you are able to aim and jump at the same time. Consolefags have to move their finger off the joystick to jump.
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It's very good to know how to quickscope, because as a player you'll want to be versatile. You don't have to quickscope all the time, across map etc etc, that's for kids. But if you come up close quarters with someone when you have a sniper, if you know how to quickscope then you'll have a better chanse of winning the gun fight.

Drop shot is considered cheap but I play with tactical because I can put myself at an advantage over players quickly dropshoting them. I rarely camp so when I rush I need something to counter their cover/suprise effect and when I dropshot most players seem to be slow at aiming down because most campers haven't got the best reflexes and reaction times. I think playing on tactical is way more fair than panicknifes and commando, thus another reason to not use the regular set-up.

Campers, as aformentioned, are most likely not as good with certain mechanics in the game and have to wait for their enemy instead of running towards them. You "can't" pick up as much kills camping as if you rush, so imo it's their loss. Even if most people do, and I will admit that I don't like campers if I consistently get killed by them and they do sometimes make me mad, blame others on the way that they play it's plain ridiculous. It's a game, so let people play the way they want to play it.
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I see no mention of propiping.
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Well I agree with you except on the drop-shot. Drop shotting has saved my life multiple times. It just gives you that split second of you getting shots on target and the other guy missing.
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as far as QS'ing goes, you'll never convince the youth population that it isn't cool or effective. If they get one on you they'll scream about it for the day
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Quick scoping can be some what useful in close quarters as said above I pulled off some today which came in handy, but I agree I do not think it is special or shows any special skill, it's so old, it's been done to death pretty much every single game you play now has at the very least one person quick scoping. It's annoying as hell to me personally.

Dropshotting is very useful I used to over do it abit in Cod4 but if you can learn to how use it it can be very helpful IMO.
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I'd say drop shotting is a life saver to say the least, of course it isn't very effective at long range and sometimes just plain fais and makes you look like your eating dirt for the fun of it but for me it's just as strategical as using cover to fire.

It reduces the enemies target area in an instant (if done fast enough) which catchs them off guard and gives you extra time to return fire. It's commony used by seannaners the youtube director as he's often called "the dropshot king".

As for camping in one spot, i guess it has its advantages such as spawn locking or camping a dropped bomb in search and destroy but when you literay sit in a random position with a tactical knife/ shotgun etc and wait for players to walk by not playing the objective at all i think thats enough reason to give some trash talk in the post game lobby.
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quickscoping (unless you're a select few) is absolutely worthless. every single match i see a quickscoper i take down their name to see how they do at the end of the game. almost every single time they go horribly negative. as for drop shotting, i think it only works when you're very close to the guy, and almost never works in hardcore. camping is a legitimate tactic. i'll camp an area (not corner camping, but watching over a certain area) and if you wanna come through the same door over and over to get shot, that's fine by me. and it's funny because they cuss and moan about it after the game, but they're the ones that are retarded for watching through the same door and getting killed by the same guy.
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quickscoping (unless you're a select few) is absolutely worthless. every single match i see a quickscoper i take down their name to see how they do at the end of the game. almost every single time they go horribly negative. as for drop shotting, i think it only works when you're very close to the guy, and almost never works in hardcore. camping is a legitimate tactic. i'll camp an area (not corner camping, but watching over a certain area) and if you wanna come through the same door over and over to get shot, that's fine by me. and it's funny because they cuss and moan about it after the game, but they're the ones that are retarded for watching through the same door and getting killed by the same guy.
I agree with the quickscoping comment; i find that most of them seem to swarm to core search and destroy and rage quit or dashboard once the game ends. As for drop shotting in hardcore its pretty pointless considering its a 1 shot kill with most weapons so you'd never have the time. Its more of a core used strat.
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I don't do any of the 'styles' described...
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On a console, you cannot aim AND press the jump button at the same time as you aim with the right joystick (unless you hold the controller with a funny grip, which almost everyone doesn't).
Actually you can, switch layout to tactical and R3 becomes crouch/prone, so you can still fire and aim while going prone.
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Actually you can, switch layout to tactical and R3 becomes crouch/prone, so you can still fire and aim while going prone.
He said jump not crouch.
Clock who is a member on here actually plays with the claw method so can use jump and right stick, he's the only person I know of that does though.
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