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Old 08-31-2010, 10:53 AM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Sup guys. You know I don't really do montages, however I've always wanted to make one with a bit of editing. The UMP, Spas, Intervention, and MP5K are mostly used in this video, since I wanted assault rifles to stay at a minimum. Usually my play style has been more laid back, however while making this I jumped more into the fray and had a hell of a lot of fun doing it. I focused a bit on the intro, wanted to show clips of me dying for the beginning lyrics, I thought it turned out pretty decent.

The song in the video is 'til I Collapse by Eminem, and from now on out any other music in my videos will be rock music. All clips in the video that are sped up/blurred together are (for the most part) one killstreak attempt. Though I'd rather do full games, more fragtages may be coming. Anyway, I'd rather it be watched on YT than in the embeds.


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like it. i will be making one soonish
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True, the next one I make, if I do, it's going to be using pistols and its machine brethren. Shotguns are much easier and launchers, maybe for the lulz.
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.... get fucked I was going to do a Pistol one...

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Alright alright I'll just do a 360 1337 nosc0pe 'tage with all of my mistakes cut out with a painkiller logo in the center of my screen. ;o
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Haven't seen it yet, im supposed to be studying but i have high hopes for this one, the idea sounds really cool, i can almost already picture it with the music. if that made any sense.
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I like.

Music is a little commom/overused/unimaginative etc. however. Nicely put together even if the clips aren't ub3r l33t.
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I liked it, it was pretty cool
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Strange, I didn't see that song much, must be because I don't watch many montages. However the next one, I'm going to do something much different. I would have edited it more if my laptop could handle HD editing, but every half a second it freezes and lags badly, so it's a bit difficult.

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But thanks for liking it guise. <3 Now that I can see the first one, I can definitely make improvements to make the next one better.

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I find genuine/real gameplay so much more interesting to watch... maybe it's just cause you're a forum member so I'm naturally curious as to how good regular posters are. I was going to suggest a little less dying in the opening kills, it looked as if it was setting the standard, but then I read that you did it on purpose

One thing I do not understand is why console users continually fail to bother editting out the "spectator" moniker and control buttons. It looks so amatuerish (maybe it's because I assume they've got the idea of panning over the map from the endless pre-MW2 PC montages that do this, but do it properly since they can do it in devmaps etc etc, and therefore the less-proffesional outcome will always be a letdown) yet isn't difficult to crop. "Proffesionalism" was probably a bad thing to mention since yours is, the editting doesn't seem to take away from the gameplay (unlike most l33t montages where you end up concentrating too hard on ignoring the l33t editting to try to watch the l33t gameplay) - IMO the editting was, in a phrase, simple yet effective.

You also exceeded in the same place that every other console-based montage does: making me want to ragequit youtube. Your's is just an entirely different world. A world where people never check their corners, a world where people take a year to react to an enemy appearing, a world where there is never anyone in the corner that you didn't check, a world where people never use prone or jump in order to try and throw off the enemy's aim... I want to live in that world, but urr umm with a mouse and keyboard, so that I could win every game a million - 0.
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Good video. Took me most of the day to watch it, seem to have a problem with watching YouTube videos during the day. Buffering takes ages.

Also, hardscoping nub. Such an unfair advantage!!!
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Strange, I didn't see that song much, must be because I don't watch many montages. However the next one, I'm going to do something much different. I would have edited it more if my laptop could handle HD editing, but every half a second it freezes and lags badly, so it's a bit difficult.
It is in a Modern Warfare 2 trailer lol. You did a better job of making the song fit than they did to be honest.
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I find genuine/real gameplay so much more interesting to watch... maybe it's just cause you're a forum member so I'm naturally curious as to how good regular posters are. I was going to suggest a little less dying in the opening kills, it looked as if it was setting the standard, but then I read that you did it on purpose
Yes, I did that on purpose to simulate the lyrics about not giving up, not being a quitter and use motivation to get better, after that, the only death in the video is the Claymore kill. However, I myself prefer full games than montages, it shows more of the users playstyle than just blind rushing and hoping to get amazing kills.

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It did look ameteurish I'll admit, I thought about cropping out each individual frame, and I tried to do it in-game, however I failed to do so. I usually always favor gameplay over editing, since too many edits defeats the purpose of watching the player. It's like paying tickets to see a band live but theres too many lighting and laser effects to get a good view. I appreciate the feedback though.

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You also exceeded in the same place that every other console-based montage does: making me want to ragequit youtube. Your's is just an entirely different world. A world where people never check their corners, a world where people take a year to react to an enemy appearing, a world where there is never anyone in the corner that you didn't check, a world where people never use prone or jump in order to try and throw off the enemy's aim... I want to live in that world, but urr umm with a mouse and keyboard, so that I could win every game a million - 0.
I completely understand. Although I don't want to make excuses for myself, in montages I feel like I needed to play a completely different playstyle. A reckless, rushing playstyle to get decent strings of kills. In normal gameplay, checking around corners, proning and jumping around is something I do on a somewhat-frequent occasion. I feel that a recorder is pressured to play like an idiot to make good kills for a montage, since that is what a montage is, just a collection of kills with show-off effects that make a player look good. I wish I had the freedom of controller mapping that you PC players have though, you can virtually customize everything to your convenience, and sadly using these tactics on a default PS3 controller for me is difficult. They actually do have mouse and keyboard accessories for consoles though.

Having read all of this I can safely say that I'm much better at making full game videos than montages, because montages can be so misleading. Thank you for the post though.


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That's interesting to know, I'll have to check it out really, haha.
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Liked and everything! Dam,i can't do anything like these. D;<
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That is a very good video! Cool moves, cool aiming, perfect kills, very good editing (like the zoom-ins and black/white effect) music is ok, would be better with some rock-music, but till i collapse is the original mw2 soundtrack, so its ok to use it

9/10 for this video very good work!

and now i see that there are people out there whose are playing very well on xbox/ps3 ...all the other videos here looks very unprofessional! This one is just awesome
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That is a very good video! Cool moves, cool aiming, perfect kills, very good editing (like the zoom-ins and black/white effect) music is ok, would be better with some rock-music, but till i collapse is the original mw2 soundtrack, so its ok to use it

9/10 for this video very good work!

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Thank you KoE for the compliments. I actually never knew my choice song was part of the MW2 soundtrack. If I would have known that I would have definitely used a different song!

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It took me around two days to get some good clips. I actually recorded twice as much but only ended up using the clips you saw in the video. During those two days I edited in what I could, and used more time to make it. Overall I'd say about 3-4 days, each working on it for one-two hours at the most.

The most time consuming thing for me is the editing. My laptop can't handle HD editing, so it badly lags and freezes when I made time specific edits. Its just place and pray as far as all that goes.
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Wow, nice! I loved the multi-spray with the MP5K.
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