Jomick

Mainly as a post to Skuh, but also anyone who is on the fence about buying MW3.

Pros of MW3 MP:

- As of today's 1.03 patch (at least on PS3), it is much easier to get into games.
- "Connection Interrupted" rarely occurs.
- Incredibly easy to rank up both your weapons and your actual rank
- Despite what many have said, killstreaks really aren't overpowered. There's one or two that you can make an argument for, but that's really about it.
- Campers, noobtubes, and quickscopers are far and few between.
- "Unlock Gear" in the Prestige Shop is quite possibly one of the best things in the game if you have a gun you like that gets unlocked late in the game.
- Daily Challenges and Weekly Challenges can net you an easy 3000-15000 XP, respectively.
- Most maps are medium size, so you can use just about any weapon on any map.
- No OP perks. Scavenger (which used to be one of the most OP) only essentially only resupplies bullet ammo.
- Overall, very easy to jump into from the beginning and doesn't get boring or repetitive like Black Ops.

Cons of MW3 MP

- Dead Man's Hand. Though no one uses it, it functions the same as the Suicide Bombers in Survival Mode.
- Titles and emblems are mostly the same. Some have new backgrounds, others are completely the same.
- Some parts of maps are copied from other COD games. For example, Bakaara reminds me of District, Backlot and Crash. However, those were three of the best COD maps ever.
- Weapon levels, but to an extent. If you want Red camo for the SCAR-L, you need to get to Weapon Level 27 which does take some time.
- Occasional lag, but it is very rare.
- Time to Kill is a lot like Black Ops.


All that I can think of for now. If you have anything else that you think should be a pro or con, or comments about any of those listed, feel free to post.

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Alphabuster187

I agree with most of what you said, my observations are...

I see quite a bit of camping, but I suspect that it is lack of knowlwdge of maps, hopefully it will fade away.

I think most maps aren't sniper friendly, too cramped.

Scav will supply launcher ammo only if the person that dropped the Scav Pack had the same launcher equipped.

Juggernaut is useful for dom, hqtrs etc... I have used the Support Juggernaut.

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Jomick

Responses in bold.

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Keegs

Responses in red.

Jomick

Yeah, PS3 doesn't have many campers.

Some do, but my emblem for example doesn't (it's 4 Aces with blood, and one with a bullet hole)

Now that you say it, it does. Hell, Fallen reminds me of Overgrown and Corrosion (WaW)

And while I do like the Weapon Levels (as I said it's a con to an extent), I find it easier to get 150 headshots for Red Tiger than the at least 20,000XP necessary from getting kills with that one gun for Red camo.

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Keegs

If I could change one thing about the game, it would be the removal of Final Stand. I swear, Infinity Ward must be fucking retarded to keep putting it in the game.

I've been seeing it so much, I've started playing a game inspired by Cyanide & Happiness' game, Comic Sans.

It's the same concept. Whenever I see someone using Final Stand, I message them saying "FINAL STAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAND!!!!!!".

Skuh

^^^^^Wait wut?
Rob Bowling twitted that there was no last/final stand/second chance in the mp at all. So he lied again? There is last stand?
Getting confused about TTK now. Jomick and Char both say it is like Black Ops, but most other people say it is like MW2 and then some. As in you die almost instantly. Definately not like Black Ops?
Camping I have heard is rife on PS3 too but COD has always been full of campers.
Connection issues I assume will get better but if it is like BO that could be a deal breaker.
Guess I will have to wait and see. Keep the pro's and con's coming people. Thanks.

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Keegs

Well, Final Stand is in the deathstreaks (YAY, those are back) unlocked at around..well I don't know. Maybe around 20 ish. But seriously, there are so many people using it. Not to mention there's matrydom and a bunch of others in the package.

Skuh

Rob Bowling is what I like to call...a wanker

Why lie about it.

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pantstofry

From the pros and cons list you made... I see this being nothing more than an average game. nothing mindblowing. As long as they have specialized weapon titles ill be happy.

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Jomick

As Keegs said, there is Final Chance. I honestly don't see it much but that may just be me.
It's closer to Black Ops in my eyes, where most guns do take a while to kill. There are a few that kill almost instantaneously, such as the SCAR.
Like I said, I personally don't see many campers on PS3. But again that may just be me.
Connection is a lot better than Black Ops. Hell, it's better than most other COD games.

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pantstofry

Maybe that's luck. The 6 or so times I've played it I've had a few games lag out each time. It wasn't ridiculously often or anything, but definitely there. The problem for me is the excitement factor has already worn off. I'm not excited about the game being new anymore, I'm already used to the maps and weapons and such. I know people will love the game far longer than I will but I just find it stale already. Again, if there are weapon titles then at least there's a goal for me to shoot for.

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Jomick

Weapon titles and emblems are there. I've gotten them for the M4.

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pantstofry

The silver and gold?

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Jomick

Emblem I've gotten the silver for (Gold IIRC is for headshots which I rarely get).

Title I've gotten the gray and the skull, not sure if there's prestige challenges yet.

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pantstofry

Sweet, thanks.

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Keegs

Is it just me, or is it a lot like MW2 in the aspect that once someone starts shooting at you and you're facing another direction, you have 0% chance of escape?

jclark198

Pros:
-Multiplayer is good right out of the box. No massive connection issues like Black Ops
-You don't have to give yourself brain damage by playing Firing Range again for the 8756th time
-MW2 was a lot of fun, and this is a lot like MW2

Cons:
-It's basically MW2.1 - 2 years and we get a mostly recycled game.
-Because of the above, I think that it's going to get old rather quickly
-It's missing the TAR-21. Gimme back mah gotdamn TAR. Israeli assault rifles FTW.

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kll131

Qft. I've only used 3 (m4, c904-something and the scar) and i don't really like the feel of any of them.
Also the spas, why iw why?

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Alphabuster187

Outpost looks a lot like one of the MW2's map packs map, don't remember the name since I deleted both.

MW3 has a lot to offer in the sense of customization, I love that aspect. Also, Spec Ops and survival mode are really cool because you can play solo, with a buddy or kind of like multiplayer, with a random person out there.

I haven't even bothered to snipe on these maps, I feel like it's too cramped. I wish it had 2 or 3 truly sniper friendly maps.

I'm using mostly the Specialist Kill Streaks, one class has an Assault KS, one the Support, the other3 have the Specialist.

Daily and weekly challenges are cool, as are the ones for Elite Premium members.

MW3 is awesome, it just took me a bit to get there.

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jamesmsv

It's this point that really gets me in this game. It does seem like it's simply a game of who-sees-who first and nothing more. I know that's part of good strategy/movement etc but it's way too extreme. It means the campers are now super-frustrating. Due to map size, even if you do evade that one person there's another right round the corner ready to finish you off.
How the F anyone has got a MOAB I don't know, but considering plenty of the big youtubers have been forced to admit it's luck-based instead of skill, it's not a good indication for overall game balance.

Keegs

You just have to get used to the game. When I bought it, I found it impossible to string together even a 5 kill streak, so I ended up using the Support package. I usually ended up about 20-20 in a game. But now I've played more, it feels more natural and it's a hell of a lot easier to go on a killstreak. Really, you just need to pick a gun you're comfortable with (In my case, the PP90 smg), and have a good knowledge of spawns and areas of the map that get a lot of traffic.

dhoop17

As for Robert Bowling being a wanker: What he actually said was that there was not final/last/second chance PERK* in the game. Which is true. He is still a wanker however.

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Jomick

This, basically.

Definitely don't start on Assault unless you can go on 10+ KS easily.

And once you get through the first rank progression, prestiging is incredibly easy. It took me maybe till rank 40 or 50 (no prestige) to get accustomed to all the maps and such.

And like he said find a weapon you like, preferably one unlocked earlier. I used the M4 first time around, but used the FAD when I prestiged.

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pantstofry

This game is already completely boring for me, and I haven't bought the game yet. I've contributed maybe 15 or so levels (in the 30-50 range) on my friend's account and at least ill be able to just get gun kills to gather up the titles and emblems. It's the only redeeming factor of the game for me.

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