Don't Eat The Fish

If this has been posted before, please don't bite my head off lol, I searched in Quick Q and A and I don't know where Tactical Discussion went.

Anyway, I'm a level 12 (I think), and I've been focusing on unlocking sights for different guns. No guns have the silencer unlocked (except for the SPAS12, and let's face it, that thing's useless with a silencer). So my question is, barring silencers, claymores and Ninja Pro, what's the best bet for a good Search and Destroy class?

(I know that's an oxymoron xD)

I'm using now:

M4A1... just an M4A1, nothing special
SPAS-12 Red Dot Sight
Semtex
Stun Grenades
Marathon (Sleight of Hand isn't really necessary since M4 reloading is among the fastest in the game, and nor is Scavenger)

Stopping Power (an M4A1 is basically an ACR with faster ROF so this is a must)

Commando (no Ninja FTL, Steady Aim is useless on an assault rifle and I refuse to use Scrambler)

Any better suggestions? I get my ass handed to me regularly on this class, but maybe I'm to blame for that.

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Platy

I use SoH in S&D for the quick reloading in tight situations. Nothing worse than having reloading and getting shot.

Other than that, that's what I was using after I just prestiged.

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Megika

Well, obviously a silencer would be best for the M4A1 - Team Deathmatch and Domination are both better modes to unlock attachments, since you won't be racking up very high kill counts in SnD.

The M4A1 really isn't very good, you'd probably be better off with a SCAR-H.

Better than either is a TAR, unlocked at rank 21 if I remember correctly. My preferred classes for SnD are:

Tar w/ Silencer
Spas w/ anything
Semtex, Stuns
Sleight of Hand Pro
Stopping Power
Ninja Pro

Alternately, a UMP45 silenced with Marathon/Lightweight/Anything is an excellent class for flanking and rushing.

Sleight of Hand Pro gives a very nice bonus of halving the time it takes to ADS (Aim Down Sights), so it's worth considering over Marathon.

Commando is fine until you get Ninja, but I personally don't play SnD until I unlock Ninja - HBS are very common.

Don't Eat The Fish

I usually play Ground War-best way to get a LOT of kills.

I posted this because my friends always invite me and drag me to SnD games, and I have no silencers and end up getting screwed.

That TAR class is exactly what I used before I prestiged, except I had Bling and an HBS on top of the silencer.

I'm close to UMP silenced, but not anything tacknife. I only have the USP unlocked and I'm not that great with it.

And I prefer the M4 to the SCAR - more accuracy, no recoil and a faster ROF. I hate the ACR though, ironically.

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GhostHands

IMO the best perks for S&D are Sleight of Hand, Stopping Power and Steady Aim. If you aren't going to use a silencer then I would suggest the TAR. It's a great gun and quite powerful with good irons.

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Don't Eat The Fish

I Used the TAR before I prestiged, and I would use it again if I had it unlocked. I only have the Famas, M4 and SCAR, mp5k, UMP, Vector, RPD, and the L86 as primaries as of now.

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GhostHands

Then I would suggest the UMP or M4. I <3 the FAMAS but personally don't recommend it for S&D unless you are using SoH and maybe SP.

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Megika

The SCAR really is better than the M4A1. They have similar times to kill, but the SCAR scales better with Stopping Power. As far as accuracy goes, ignore the in-game stat charts - they are lies. The only thing that determines 'accuracy' is recoil.

Although the SCAR does have more vertical recoil than the M4A1, there isn't that much of a difference, and it's much easier to compensate for since the SCAR pretty much has no horizontal recoil.

Hell, ViS said it best.

Voodoo

My 3 S&D suggestions that I primarily use:

1) UMP w/ silencer (sorry but anything else is useless)
Marathon
Lightweight
Steady Aim/Commando
Pistol w/ tac knife
Semtex
Stun

2)
Tar w/ Holo (use a silencer though tbh
spas w/ fmj
SoH
SP
SA/Ninja (HBS more prevalent in S&D)
Semtex
Stun

3)
FAMAS w/ silencer
spas w/ FMJ
SoH
SP
Ninja
Semtex
Stun

i don't feel you should use anyother weapons than these bar maybe the MP5

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Don't Eat The Fish

unlocked a silencer for the UMP, so thats what I'll use from now on. Everyone else is doing it...

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Ribbitman

UMP FMJ
Marathon
Stopping
Ninja

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FPSFan

tar-21 silencer + HBS
G18 Akimbo (+ silencer)
Bling (pro)
CB (Pro)
Ninja (Pro)

not get seen on radar or HBS's and catch anyone dumb enough not to use ninja

Don't Eat The Fish

Using right now:

UMP45 Silenced and Rapid Fire
SPAS-12 Foregrip and FMJ (for baiting... hehe)
Bling Pro
Stopping Power Pro (but I want to switch to Cold Blooded when I get pro for that)
Ninja Pro

Semtex
Stuns

UAV
Predator
Emergency Airdop (which almost never happens in SnD)

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Platy

I called in an EAD the other day in SnD, because I forgot to take it off before I started. I managed to call it in, kill 2 guys, grab an airstrike from it, drop it on the map, kill another camping the bomb they'd just planted and defuse the bomb. That was an epic round

Cloud

Also for aiming down sight quicker with pro being added to it, IMO it is essential in SND because it's often whoever is first to shoot wins in 1v1 and in SND you will need that kind of boost in those situations IMO.

I think the Scar is a great gun(in b4 crap gun, low DPS etc etc etc) IMO it's a great gun and have been using it recently and doing great with it more so thana lot of other guns. But can't really go wrong with the UMP IMO. Excellent in 1v1 situations and in the right hands awesome at long range for an SMG.

But I would really suggest using a silencer in SND, When you unlock the Tar give it a go too probably best in the game.

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Platy

Yeah, I agree about the Pro part as well.

My SnD setup is completely different from my TDM/Dom setup. Usually use a silenced AR with SoH, CB, Ninja in SnD, invisible to every thing except light.

oneinchwunda

I'm surprised that no-one has mentioned using a Marathon, Lightweight and Commando class.

If you aren't using a silencer, the red dot that appears on the HUD when you fire is always going to give away your general position. Using Marathon and Lightweight (or CB if you prefer) is going to help you move a lot quicker and avoid being rushed by the rest of the enemy team when you kill someone.

I suggest using an SMG like the MP5k with a handgun, as a shotgun is not really needed due to the MP5k's high DPS at close range.

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Mr Degausser

I'm an S&D fiend. I totally hear you about how hard it is to play that mode after you prestige.

I would not suggest using Bling Pro as your Tier 1 UNLESS you're using Silencer and Heartbeat, which is generally helpful. However, you can get screwed since a lot of S&D players use Ninja.

So, I would say use the Silenced UMP and continue with a shotgun. I prefer the Striker to the Spas-12, though. Not sure if you've unlocked it yet.

Definitely do SoH. Reload time is crucial. Far more important than marathon or two attachments, IMO. And the Striker is pretty wicked due to it's RoF and magazine size. And it's reload time is substantially affected by SoH.

Stopping Power is probably preferable to cold blooded, especially with a silenced weapon. One shot can make all the difference between getting the match winning kill or BEING IT. Haha.

However, you can also throw on Hardline to grab a UAV, Pred Missile, and Precision Airstrike within a five killstreak. Helps a lot the next round to have all that crap, and a five killstreak is very attainable near the middle of a S&D match.

Definitely a good call on Ninja Pro. That's pretty much the quintessential S&D tier 3 perk.

Good luck, bro!

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Equipment: Semtex ---------- Special Grenade: Flash x 2
Perks: Sleight of Hand Pro - Cold Blooded Pro - Ninja Pro

Don't Eat The Fish

Thanks for the help.

I switched out Bling for SoH, and SP for Cold Blooded. Kept the silencer on the UMP and switched to just FMJ for the SPAS.

Personally I can't stand the Striker. It's not very powerful and the spread/range leaves something to be desired. It's almost always a 2-shot kill in my experience, which a shotgun should never be. I prefer it to the 1887 however... those things are useless. The SPAS is a good short range weapon and even does decently in medium range situations. Shoot, hide then shoot again if the first doesn't kill them. Extended Mags is basically a Striker anyway, which I'm well on my way to getting.

Hardline has also not worked very well for me, and the Pro part of it is actually terrible, not worth giving up my invisibility for. I use UAV/Counter UAV/Predator so those KS's aren't hard to get in the first place.

Sleight of Hand just beat out Marathon because I don't want to run around like a douche until I get killed. I prefer fast reload times to unlimited sprint... even if I CAN get up obstacles like a pro hurdler.

Also for the CB>SP debate, I chose cold blooded because stopping power does little for the UMP. I dont mind 1 more shot... it beats 5 (!!!) at long range for the MP5K. Plus I wanted a farkin awesome ninja stealth class.. when I'm not playing SnD I put Marathon on and flank people.

And yes, SnD rules, I just wish I was better at it

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Mr Degausser

I hear you, man. It's actually pretty tough to switch between SnD and TDM because you have to completely readjust your mindset away from "no respawning", you know?

What works for me is beginning a COD session with SnD and then playing TDM. Keeps your senses sharper and your kdr is usually close to 2:1, in my experience.

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Equipment: Semtex ---------- Special Grenade: Flash x 2
Perks: Sleight of Hand Pro - Cold Blooded Pro - Ninja Pro

Alphabuster187

I'm new to SnD and just recently started playing (30 matches so far), we mostly play HC SnD and I'm still learning the ropes since I normally play Domination.

I use:

ACR w/ silencer and HBS
Spas
Claymore
Stun
Bling
CB PRO
Ninja or Sitrep

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Mr Degausser

IMO, unless you're using bling pro and using two attachments on your secondary (G18 akimbo + silencer is good), you're screwing yourself by using up your tier 1 perk with bling.
--Marathon and SoH are definitely preferable, the reduced ADS and Reload time with SoH Pro really really come in handy in clutch situations.
--And marathon works really well for flanking, especially since most SnD matches start off a lot slower than more common game types like TDM and Domination.
--The HBS is WICKED useful, until you become over reliant on it and get utterly pwned by someone using Ninja, which is a lot more common in SnD than other game types.

The ACR w/ Silencer is probably one of the best guns in the game for Snd due to it's extreme accuracy, lack of recoil and average rate of fire. Scar-H is cool, too, but it's small magazine size tends to screw me over when I'm the last man standing.

I completely suck with the Spas-12, but the Striker has its shortcomings, too. One of the parts that blows about prestiging is I have to wait until mid 50's to get the M1014, but if you've got it unlocked, I'd suggest using it (or at least trying it out. It's pretty ballin').

Oh yeah, and CB Pro is ultimate for SnD.

Overall, that's a really solid class.

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Inkman647

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@Inkman647, you shouldn't post that here, that's not relevant to the thread. But anyway, try putting [img] tags around the picture. should look like this: