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Old 10-01-2010, 10:17 AM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Default Best secondary weapons without SP?

Other than the stinger, what is a good secondary weapon to use with cold blooded?

Lets say this is my class

UMP-45 Silenced
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I just don't really know which guns are not too much affected by the change from Stopping Power to something else. And I would prefer it if the gun is silenced.
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Silenced raffica IMHO.
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Default Re: Best secondary weapons without SP?

Magnum and Deagle close range is still 2 kills without I believe.

Akimbo G18's put out so many damn bullets that SP isn't that necissary to kill quickly with them.

Personally, my favorite is the Striker.
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Default Re: Best secondary weapons without SP?

What kind of playstyle do you intend to use with this class? Flanking, straight out bum rush, guirrela hit an run? I could be wrong but I think Spas-12 doesn't suffer too much without SP. The drawback on this would be if you are rushing around, and need to swich to a secondary fast, well you are going to be SOL in that situation. The other thing to consider in using the Spas is how stealthy you want to be ie silencer. Spas silenced cuts the kill range down considerably, so thats something to keep in mind. Now a Stryker silenced is something I have seen people use on rushing classes since they can get up close and personal with the Styrker. Shorter range better rate of fire, its a trade off.

Akimbo G-18's also do not suffer without SP, bullet hoses are bullet hoses,you won't notice the difference in a number of bullets required for a kill.The other thing to consider about G-18's is they will run out of ammo relatively quickly. Just something to keep in mind. Raffica silenced are pretty good too. One thing to keep in mind is that akimbo set ups do benefit from steady aim and I understand that ninja pro is beneficial in terms of HBS invisbility and silent foot steps.

Not sure what to tell you as handguns as secondaries.

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Silenced Raffica or a silenced handgun for draw speed win.
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Default Re: Best secondary weapons without SP?

Akimbo G18s > all (in this scenario).
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Spas shotgun...
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Default Re: Best secondary weapons without SP?

Use a silenced pp2000. I always run out of ammo If I don't have scavenger on.
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Default Re: Best secondary weapons without SP?

SRSLY, I use that exact class with Akimbo G18s.

Insane TTK that is beaten by very few other weapons (Shotguns have a potential TTK of 0, but a missed shot = death).
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Default Re: Best secondary weapons without SP?

I started using CB on my Ump and it hasnt seemed to affect the spas that much for me
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Default Re: Best secondary weapons without SP?

Akimbo Rafficas? Overpowered as it is. I use to use them, they are too good, I stopped, the range is ridiculous and damage as well. But your class is ninja like so maybe silenced. But if you wanna rape someone, Akimbo...
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Default Re: Best secondary weapons without SP?

If Silencer is necessary, M93.

PP2k is just lacking without SP imo, shotguns are useless silenced, G18 needs akimbo, TMP (lol), and handguns are bad by comparison.
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Default Re: Best secondary weapons without SP?

Akimbo rangers does 900 damage if all pellets hit, without stopping power. I wouldn't use them though because they have such short range but with marathon it's quite a good weapon to use. Silenced m93 rafficas is a very secure choice and so is the pp2000 along with the infamous Akimbo G18's.
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Default Re: Best secondary weapons without SP?

Magnum with tact knife or spas.
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2 shot kill at close range.
Tac knife for stealth.

Spas: without Sp ump is sort of bad at cqc imo, spas is great.

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EDIT: Ump is uber long range, you don't need raffica or pp2k for that matter. Use common sense
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I always miss...

The GWKC on Terminal last night. 5 shots with the Spas-12 before I killed him. Happened on several occasions.
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I always miss...

The GWKC on Terminal last night. 5 shots with the Spas-12 before I killed him. Happened on several occasions.
Yeah, but all non-auto weapons are like that when you have 2-3bars, like you did. Atleast you always knew where we were atleast =)
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Default Re: Best secondary weapons without SP?

IMO rafficas suck without SP, cause they normally take me like 2 or 3 bursts to kill someone and by that time I am dead.

I also would prefer it if the weapon was silenced because it's a stealthy class and that is what I am going for. I like the pp200 idea i think ill try that.
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EDIT: Ump is uber long range, you don't need raffica or pp2k for that matter. Use common sense
And you can kill 10+ people with it before running out of ammo.
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Magnum and Deagle close range is still 2 kills without I believe.

Akimbo G18's put out so many damn bullets that SP isn't that necissary to kill quickly with them.

Personally, my favorite is the Striker.
the magnum and deagle are two bullet kills with fmj. I may wrong because I can't aim very well with them and they have so much fucking recoil
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the magnum and deagle are two bullet kills with fmj. I may wrong because I can't aim very well with them and they have so much fucking recoil
FMJ doesn't increase damage.
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I use magnum with tac knife on rush/stealth class and akimbo magnum on my sniper class.
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Launchers, Akimbo G18.

SP reduces the bullets needed to kill and at about 2200 RPM, one extra bullet is unnecessary.
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